Any compatible USB Adapters for 80211.G?

[elliottpd]

Just wondering if anyone here knows if there are any wireless USB wireless adapters that are supported by the CVP and are compatible with an 802.11G (only) wireless home network? I have a CVP305 that I'd like to connect. I have upgraded the CVP's firmware to version 1.56. All of the wireless adapters listed on the Yamaha IDC website are 802.11B Thanks.

[dancaputi]

Any 'B' adapter can connect to a 'G' access point/router. You won't get the best range and bandwidth but it should be fine for IDC.

- Dan C.

[elliottpd]

My router is setup to run in "G-Only" mode for better performance with my computers. Hence looking for G Adapter that might work.

[dancaputi]

In that case, I guess you're out of luck.

Do you really notice a big difference compared to running in b/g mixed mode? I rarely use the wireless for anything but internet access so my bottle-neck is the cable modem - no way around that.

- Dan C.

[elliottpd]

The bottleneck in my house is in moving files between computers. The G-only setting speeds this up with my router.

[pedroosan]

Seems the only solution to not having to search for outdated wireless adapters on ebay is to use an extra Hub and wireless point together with a wired Yamaha supported USB Lan adapter.

Should be easier to get the wired LAN USB converter. Hook that up to a HUB near the piano. Connect another wireless thing (now here needs some research what).

BTW I don't think anyone needs to worry about which router and access point or hub and so on.... as long as it is a device not directly connected to the piano you will be fine. Ethernet will work with Ethernet. DHCP will work the same, and 11b/g will work fine with any other 11b/g device (except the piano).

Only for the thing directly connected to the piano you need to worry.

LEt me try a graphic here:

Piano <---> USB wired lan <----> regular Ethernet RJ45 LAN Hub <----> wireless point <--------> your original wireless access point/router


You'll have to connect the LAN Hub and extra wireless point to the PC first to configure it. Don't try to configure it from the piano. The piano will only see the "Wired USB adapter" and don't even know that you are going wireless after that.

The tricky part about such a solution:
the extra wireless point must be a "client" to your original wireless access point/router.

Similar to what a printserver does. Where you have the printer far away and want to connect it wirelessly to which ever PC's you have in the network.

I am pretty sure it can be done, just need to find the right devices to plug together.

Just an idea...

[pedroosan]

Ok I did some research and it is even simpler: get something like the linksys wireless game adapter (WGA54GA)

I will make a new thread to explain this.

[burtenr]

I have just put in a wireless network and the USB Wireless adapter that came as a bonus works fine from my 307.

The adapter is the LINKSYS 2.4 Ghz Wireless G Model No WUSB54G(EU/LA/UK).

I assume that it is actually running at 11b rather than 11g but that's ok.

Each time I connect it grumbles that the adapter is not supported, but as soon as I entered the SSID & changed the channel it was fine and connects automatically when I go to IDC

As this is Linksys's current product, I hope this might help someone.

[burtenr]

Don't bother trying to find/buy a Wireless USb adapter.

Yamaha are currently giving them away if you register for IDC
see http://music.yamaha.com/servicesTypeIDCConnect.html

The device I received was a D-Link 11b USB wireless adapter that works fine.

[tomtomsf]

Hi There

I registered my Tyros2 with Yamaha and I received a Belkin USB to LAN adapter. It is not wireless. I was disappointed, because I expected to get a wirelss adapter. I don't know why I expected that. I have talked to some others and all receive the same item here in the US, the Belkin wired adapter.

You're the only person I have heard of that actually got a wireless model. I wonder why?

Tom G.

[burtenr]

Interesting. Yet again Yamaha(UK) & Yamaha(US) treating its customers differently.

Looking at the blurb on the .com site, it does suggest a 'Lan' rather than a 'Wireless' adapter, so I guess the US is more closely conforming to its advertisment.

The message appears to be.
- US registerers - probably receive a wired USB Lan adapter.
- UK registerers - probably receive a wireless USB lan adapter
- Other countries - who knows.

Not very satisfactory, is it.

Still it is still worthwhile registering to get the free wired lan USB device, as if you can't use it you could always sell it on ebay.

Also this also adds the current D-Link DWL-122 802.11b adaptor to the list of recommended adaptors. It is readily available on e-bay and Amazon.

[rcanever]

Burtenr,

I am in the UK and have just received the D-link adapter but the advice I have received has scared me off trying to set it up. I would be very interested to know your setup. Did you already have a wireless network and internet connection?

I do not.

Richard.

[tomtomsf]

Hi Richard

If you would like to mail me your wireless adapter, I would be happy to mail you my wired LAN adapter. You do still need a broadband internet connection since it won't work with dial up. But you wouldn't need to set up an entire wireless network, you just need a cat-5 (network) cable.

Email me if you'd like to trade.

Tom G.

[burtenr]

Hi Richard.
Despite any horror stories you may have heard. I had no troubles connecting up the 307.

First question. Do you really want to do it. The only thing you can do with the internet connection is buy midi files & music from Yamaha at between $3 & $6 each. Unless you frequently play against midi files, I am not convinced that paying to set up a wireless network just for the CVP is justified.

If (like me) you need a Wireless Network for other reasons, then connecting up the 307 to the Wireless is good.

My process.
Maplins have a current offer of a Wireless Router (WKPC54G), a Wireless, 4 lan ports and a PCMCIA card plus the offer includes a USB Lan adapter (WUSB54G).

You can get similar cheaper on e-bay

The installation was very simple. Once installed don't forget to make it secure (there is another CVPUG thread with details).

Installing the (Linksys 54g) USB onto the 307 was fine except that the 307 grumbles that the device isn't supported, works anyway as a 11b device at 11Mbs.

The Wireless USB from Yamaha just plugs in and works.

I do find that I have to have the USB device on an extension (that came with the Yamaha device) as the electronics of the 307 degrades the wireless signal from the router in the loft.

Putting in the wireless was much simpler than expected, with the 307 bit very easy.

If I can help anymore email me at - roger at burtenr dot worldonline dot co dot uk (spelt to hopefully foil the spam collectors)

Roger

[rcanever]

Tom G. Thanks for your offer. It would have been a good idea, but I have decided to keep the Wireless adapter as I anticipate going wireless eventually.


Roger. I very much appreciate your kindness in going to such detail as to how you set up your wireless connection. I have been giving the matter much thought and have concluded that the advantages of IDC do not, for me, outweigh the expense and hassle of going wireless at this time.

My PCs are 3 or 4 years old and I will be replacing them before long. I will reconsider things then. Thanks again.

Richard

[tomtomsf]

OK, Richard, no problem.

I also have a NetGear MA111 wireless USB adapter that I purchased because Yamaha has it on their list of working adapters.

Mine doesn't. Apparently it must have OS version 1 in it to work. According to NetGear, they have not made that version since 2003, so all the currently available devices have OS v2. And this doesn't work in the Yamaha keyboard.

I'm done trying for now.

:confused:

Tom G.

[Dinachick]

I have a simple and stupid question to ask about the wireless USB adaptor for the CVP 309. It is a DLink G122 which comes with a CD ROM and says not to insert the adaptor before installing the software to run it.
I have installed the latest firmware 1.55. This should include the driver for this adaptor? It does not have anything light up when plugged into the USB of the CVP. The ssid on my wireless router is "default" so should I actually type the name of router? I'm looking through all the previous threads and the movie of IDC connection for what I may be missing.

[Martyn]

Sorry Dinachick, but your question is neither simple nor stupid. Yamaha should be considered simple and stupid because a d-Link G122 is not supported by the Yamaha firmware. See http://music.yamaha.com/downloads/EKB_DeviceList.pdf

Although Yamaha state Yamaha tries to keep this list as current as possible, but we do not guarantee the devices listed are available in your region. Yamaha does not guarantee that any of the USB devices listed are compatible with your Ethernet adapter.
Your only option is to trade in your DWL-G122 for a DWL-120 or DWL-122 - both which are now considered obsolete by D-Link.D-Link Systems, Inc. has issued an End of Life (EOL) Notice for the DWL-122 and has discontinued it as of Friday, April 01, 2005. Technical and RMA support for this product shall continue until Sunday, April 01, 2007.

To answer your other questions:-

The CD rom that comes with the adapter has the drivers necessary for a PC operating system - the Yamaha firmware already has the drivers for supported devices. This is the problem, there is no way for a Yamaha owner to update the drivers in the Yamaha operating system for a new device like the DWL-G122.

The default SSID in the setup pages in the instrument is already "default", so there should be no need to change the SSID in the router or the intrument unless you wish to. In that case, both should be the same.

I have read that Yamaha have a special offer at present. If a Clavinova owner registers for the IDC service they are giving away a free USB-LAN adapter. It could be you could persuade them to give you a supported wireless adapter when you register.

[Scubacpa]

I have a brand new Netgear MA111 which was just purchased at Staples in November of 2005. It works fine on my CVP 309-PE.

[Dinachick]

Thanks to Martyn and Scubacpa for your kind advice. I suspected this was the case. I didn't look carefully enough at the exact wording of what adaptors are recognised.
Someone at Yamaha needs to keep up with what is on the market ie USB 2.0, G type adaptor recognition if they are to seriously stand behind their product as being top of the line. We paid alot of $$ for these wonderful instruments, it can't be that hard to keep the firmware completely up to date!

[Scubacpa]

Probably for an extra $15 (cost) they could have just built a wiresless adapter into it.

[Martyn]

...and for an extra $5, they could have provided a RJ45 Lan connector...:rolleyes:

[Scubacpa]

Agreed. Even the $799 notebook computers now being sold have built in eithernet and wireless.

If they were builtin to the CVP it would avoid all of the complicated setup problems. They could list the MAC address on the manufacturing plate, or a separate sticker next to it.

And about the free adapter when you register for IDC. I registered in November and was promised the free adapter, but never got it. Doesn't really matter since I had already purchased the MA111. So I don't care, it would have been wasted on me anyway. And what's the sense of giving a free adapter AFTER you register? Presumably you are already hooked up, and therefore have an adapter, or you would not be registering? Maybe a rebate coupon or more free songs would be a better promotion.