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flochou987
10-11-2007, 02:10 PM
dear CVP users
I used music finder + to download some presets. My question is regarding the way on how do you follow the tempo when playing with left hand a downloaded song ?
I used to have an old CVP 79 with 4 leds indicating the tempo (green leds and red led to let you know the last time of the tempo....) It was very useful.
Now on my new CVP 407 (and i guess it might be the same on previous versions) I don't have these leds to indicate where I am on the tempo. How Yamaha replaced those leds ? how do you follow the tempo and manage the breaks and variation changes... do you have to count in your head ? I am not good enough to do that... and I though the CVP could help me ....
Regards,
Franck

sbrbot
10-11-2007, 05:30 PM
I'm not sure that I totally understand your question. CVP still has LEDs for tempo above the style START/STOP button indicating in red first beat and in green other ones. The same situation is with tempo (metronom). What is problem with it?

flochou987
10-11-2007, 06:01 PM
I agree, i could see this led which changing coulor from green to red , but there is only 1 led in CVP 407 when in pervious clavinova (79) there use to be 4 different leds which was much easier to follow the tempo or where you were during playing a song (especially when using a preset song coming from music finder+)... I thought with the new versions something better would have been set up, but in point of view it is less easy now to follow the tempo with only 1 led....it's more a regression than a progresss....
again it is my point a view...

sbrbot
10-12-2007, 02:12 AM
Yes probably that's the point of view. Yamaha could have created something that would show tempo counting/clapping on LCD screen in order to help people with it. For me it's not problem to follow this LED beats but for my kids sometimes it is. Sometime they start with practicing in the middle of bar. Finally there's no four LE diodes for bar beats (at the end of the day, old Clavinovas supported only 4/4 and 3/4 bars, how many LEDs clavinova should have for 11/13 bars (believe or not but Macedonian traditional songs are mostly written in complex rhythms with measures like this 11/13, 7+5/13, etc.).

BTW, you're from France. Could you translate the name of Yann Tierson's song: Comptine d'un autre été: L'après midi (http://cvpug.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2331). I tried with some online translators but it was not convincing. I need translation in English and help what could it mean.

dbjorck
10-12-2007, 02:42 AM
Hi!

Do you need it for performance or practice? If it's practice you can set the metronome to count out loud the beats, even in French; un, deux, trois...

I would translate it as 'Childrens Song from Another Spring: the Afternoon', but I don't know so much French...

Brgds

Danny

flochou987
10-12-2007, 02:48 PM
Well it is for performance and not for practice... i know I should be able to count in my head... but i am not good enough... I need it when using a preset song downloaded from music finder + to understand when the intro is done... but i agree i should count un, deux, trois, quatre and if intro is set to II then again i should count un, deux, trois, quatre again and start playing the melody...

I agree with Danny with the translation, it could work like this but i have an alternative : instead of children song you could say Lullaby and instead of spring you could summer....

regards, Franck

dbjorck
10-13-2007, 02:51 AM
:o Sorry, I've always confused été and printemps... Don't know why.

As far as I understand it, a comptine is a uniquely french song format for children, 'Alouette', etc. According to wikipedia the closest equivalent in English is childrens rhymes, which are usually sung during games, 'Ring Around the Rosies' etc.

Brgds

Danny