Ivory

[hpeterh]

Synthetic Ivory should be available for lower models, say from 405 upward.
The thermoplast surface is always annoying to me. There should be something better for such a precious instrument. (I personally dont need wodden keys)

Currently I hesitate to buy any new piano, I love my CVP 96 and the 3-leg design and it is in perfect condition. However, if the 405 had Ivory keys, then I could not resist against this attemption for very long.. :cool:

Peter

[sbrbot]

Synthetic Ivory should be available for lower models, say from 405 upward.

I don't think that Synthetic Ivory (SI) is something very special. Actually I do not have experiences with it (never played on CVP-409) but I think that this is nothing else than yet another plastic. I agree that lower models, maybe starting from CVP-405 as you suggest, should have Synthetic Ivory (of course, we talk always about white keys only). Why not SI, I think that it shouldn't be big production difference - another story is if it's only advertising glue and selling policy. Maybe I'm wrong because I do not see any other difference between CVP-407 and CVP-409 models but in SI on CVP-409.

The thermoplastic surface is always annoying to me. There should be something better for such a precious instrument. (I personally don't need wooden keys)

Eh, this is very interesting for me, you do not need wooden keys but wish Synthetic Ivory!? Wooden keys are mostly related to mechanic used in CVP and that makes the grand piano sense the most (in terms of feeling for playing not sound feeling - for that it's iAFC).

Currently I hesitate to buy any new piano, I love my CVP 96 and the 3-leg design and it is in perfect condition. However, if the 405 had Ivory keys, then I could not resist against this attemption for very long.. :cool:

According to info from Yamaha's web site, you CVP-96 is excellent machine. If you have you instrument mostly for classic piano playing, do not need hundreds of digital functionalities, as I think you don't (because SI is your purchasing trigger) then you CVP-96 is just fine. If I were you I wouldn't change it either.

[hpeterh]

Hi,

I must admid that I could not try Ivory keys on the CVP.
But I remember a very old piano (built before 1900) that my parents had in earlier days and that had /real/ Ivory keys. Of course I dont want real Ivory!

Thermoplast always has the tendency to be slippery, because the molecule chains at the surface break int smaller molecules.
Also thermoplast looks and feels cheap. Your mileage may differ.

As for the sound: Yes the sound is beautiful, but sometimes I wish to have the 3-layer piano sounds of the newer models and the improved accompaniement features. Possibly I get a psr s900 in future and use that as a sound expander at home and as a portable instrument outside.
Dont know yet. Maybe I can get a used 405 within some years.

brgds

Peter

[sbrbot]

But I remember a very old piano (built before 1900) that my parents had in earlier days and that had /real/ Ivory keys. Of course I dont want real Ivory!

I'm just curious, what brand is this old piano? It must be precious. At least, one elephant payed for it.

Thermoplast always has the tendency to be slippery, because the molecule chains at the surface break int smaller molecules.
Also thermoplast looks and feels cheap. Your mileage may differ.

Right, it's known thing that UV radiation breaks polyvinyl chains in plastic, but what could you do; hide you Clavinova from sun light, play always in dark, polish keyboard with sun protecting milk :), contrary to that I think that there's no problem with quality of plastic used for Clavinova keyboard.

As for the sound: Yes the sound is beautiful, but sometimes I wish to have the 3-layer piano sounds of the newer models and the improved accompaniement features. Possibly I get a psr s900 in future and use that as a sound expander at home and as a portable instrument outside.Dont know yet. Maybe I can get a used 405 within some years.

I had a PSR-1500, although enjoyed playing it since in terms of functionalities it's almost the same instrument as CVP-403, never really liked unweighted keys.

[hpeterh]

I'm just curious, what brand is this old piano? It must be precious. At least, one elephant payed for it.

Sorry dont know.
Thats long ago. It belonged to my grandmother, who died before I was old enough to know. So nobody played it. When I was 13 to 15 I tried on my own to play it but then we must move and it was sold.

Anyway, the case of my clavinova is laminated with some sort of duroplast, and I have the impression, that this would be a better surface for keys than thermoplast... I believe, there are a lot of artificial materials that could be better.

Peter

[sbrbot]

Anyway, the case of my clavinova is laminated with some sort of duroplast, and I have the impression, that this would be a better surface for keys than thermoplast... I believe, there are a lot of artificial materials that could be better.

I'm not sure but I'm somehow convinced that my keyboard is built from duroplast not termoplast (for my previous PSR I would say thermoplast too) but I can be sure only if I try to burn one key. :)