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ironside
04-15-2009, 02:20 AM
Group,

Last week, my wife started complaining about the 207 not sounding quite right on rare occasions. She often plays with layered grand piano sounds and uses the sustain pedal constantly. (Fairly demanding on the polyphony I suppose) Her first impression was that the sustain pedal was acting up -- notes dropping off or at least fading away far too soon in the left hand. The problem would progress up the keyboard (l-r) for a few moments, then everything would seem to go back to normal.

However, the problem was not reproduce-able on demand, happening say 3-4 times over a 10 minute period, then once again a couple of hours later, and so on -- seemingly random. I unplugged and removed the pedal assembly to check for visible damage to the pots/circuitry, but nothing out of the ordinary. I plugged it back together, and for whatever reason, the problem is not as frequent, but is still there on rare occasion.

So I ran the C#fG# test routine. All tests check out -- including the 3 pedals -- except test#43 (Rom Check2). It returns a "Sub Program ROM NG" error. The service manual states, rather cryptically, that this is a second test of the "CPU bus" ROM.

Question: what to do from here. I can't find a circuit titles "CPU bus ROM" or anything similar. Mind you, one of the 6 pdf files I have of the manual is corrupted and might contain the very information I need. It is (CVP_209_207_CB2_E.pdf) in case anyone has a good copy.

Does this ROM live on the motherboard, if so, can it be replaced? And at what cost? Are there further diagnostic steps to be taken?

Any help would be appreciated.

Kelvin (in Phoenix)

dancaputi
04-16-2009, 09:43 PM
Kelvin,
I won't be much help but, let me try the test on a known good 207 and make sure it passes. And yes, my guess is the ROM (or ROMs?) are on the motherboard.

So, how do I execute the test?

- Dan C.

ironside
04-16-2009, 10:27 PM
with piano "off" hold down the c#(below the sync/stop button) plus the F, plus G# (all at the same time).
Turn on the piano, it should go into "test" mode. release key combo
Press green Start/stop at lower right of left panel
Version info will come up (about 8-10 lines)
Press Start Stop again -- screen will display "*001 Version" (the asterisk means "run and passed")

Use the tempo keys <<< >>> to advance to the various tests
I can email you a list of the tests if you like
The test that my 207 is failing is #043 Rom Check2

*** see the other thread on the 207 *** there is a bit of a walk-thru

ironside
04-16-2009, 10:32 PM
here's the walkthru from another post

**
ll instructions are "at your own risk". These seem to be test routines and not ways to change the programming, so I think they are safe.

On CVP-207 while power is off, hold down the third C-sharp (under the Sync Start button) plus F plus G-sharp. Turn on power. Startup screen and keyboard lights will display as per normal. But then...

LCD screen will show "Test". Release keyboard chord and press right Tempo key .

LCD screen will show "001 Version". Press green Start/Stop key at lower right of left panel. Version info will come up. Press Start/Stop again. LCD screen will show "*001 Version" with the asterisk indicating this test has been viewed/passed.

Each time you press the right Tempo key, you get another test, which is started and stopped using the lower right green Start/Stop key. Here are the tests:

002: ROM Check1
003: RAM Check1
004: Flash Check1
005: Wave ROM Check1
006: Wave RAM Check1
007: FDD Check
008: Effect RAM Check
009: Effect2 RAM Check
010: Effect3 RAM Check
(no 011 on my CVP-207)
012: TG 1 Check -- this is great, it checks the tone generators, doing an upwards scale (turn down the volume)
013: TG 2 Check
014: TG 3 Check
015: Pitch Check -- really turn down the volume on this constant sine tone
016: Output R Check -- right channel tone only
017: Output L Check -- left channel tone only
018: EQ Low Check -- a low tone
019: EQ Mid Check -- a mid-range tone
020: EQ High Check -- a high tone
(no 021 on my CVP-207)
022: D/A Noise Check -- no sound so I guess it is quiet!

023: SW,LED Check -- One of the most fun. You are cued to press a key. Each time, a tone plays and the LED lights up for that key. When finished, the whole console is lit! But I don't think you can escape out of it with Start/Stop -- you have to use every control before you can exit.

024: All Panel LED On Check -- Very pretty; turns on all the LEDs
025: Red LED On Check -- Only turns on the red LEDs
026: Green LED On Check -- Only turns on the green LEDs
027: All Key LED On Check -- Another pretty one; turns on all of the guide lights over the keyboard.

028: All LCD On Check -- On mine, the text goes away on the LCD screen and that's it.
029: All LCD Off Check -- On mine, the screen gets brighter.
030: LCD Contrast Check -- Push the four OTS buttons to get four different contrast settings.
031: LCD Brightness Check -- Same as above

032: Soft Pedal Check -- Press the pedal, get a tone
033: Sostenute Pedal Check
034: Damper Pedal Check
035: Aux Pedal Check -- Don't press this if you don't have an Aux pedal!
040: MIDI Check
041: To Host Check
042: Mic Check
043: ROM Check2
044: RAM Check2
045: Flash Check2
046: Wave ROM Check2
047: Wave RAM Check2
048: Video Out NTSC RED
049: Video Out NTSC GREEN
050: Video Out NTSC BLUE
051: Video Out PAL RED
052: Video Out PAL GREEN
053: Video Out PAL BLUE
055: Factory Set -- Don't know what this one is -- could be dangerous
056: Test Exit -- Press Start/Stop and the keyboard boots up normally.

That's it. Hope this helps anyone who might be having hard-to-track problems.

dancaputi
04-18-2009, 01:10 PM
Well, that was fun... and a bit pointless.

Test 43 works on mine. And yeh, I just got a copy of that file and it too is corrupt ... go figure.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

- Dan C.

wally
04-19-2009, 09:51 AM
It might be worth a call to Yamaha customer support. I've dealt with them twice on my 209 and both times they were very helpful.