CVP509 FreePlay Styles

[bpsafran]

Does anyone know the names of the freeplay styles in the new CVP509. There are 3 ethereal styles (movie, hymn, synth) but the specs say
that there are 4 free play styles. What is the name of the 4th one?

Sam

[Jaish]

I just checked the Data list manual and there doesn't seem to be a breakdown of the various styles in the way you mentioned ("Movie / Hymn / Synth"). Where did you get this breakdown from?

For the CVP-500 series, all the styles are listed and categorised as:
Ballad, Ballroom, Country, Dance, Entertainment, Latin, Pianist, Pop&Rock, R&B, Swing/Jazz, and World. I searched all manuals and couldn't see anything more on Free Play styles except the following breakdown...

Style Characteristics
The Style type and its defining characteristics are indicated on the Preset
Style icon.

• Pro (P): These Styles provide professional and exciting arrangements
combined with perfect playability. The resulting accompaniment exactly
follows the chords of the player. As a result, your chord changes and colorful
harmonies are instantly transformed into lifelike musical accompaniment.

• Session (S): These Styles provide even greater realism and authentic backing
by mixing in original chord types and changes, as well as special riffs
with chord changes, with the Main sections. These have been programmed
to add “spice” and a professional touch to your performances of certain
songs and in certain genres. Keep in mind, however, that the Styles may
not necessarily be appropriate—or even harmonically correct-for all songs
and for all chord playing. In some cases for example, playing a simple
major triad for a country song may result in a “jazzy” seventh chord, or
playing an on-bass chord may result in inappropriate or unexpected
accompaniment.

• Free Play (F) (CVP-509/505): These Styles are characterized by rubato
performance. You can perform freely with remarkably expressive accompaniment,
without being constrained by a strict tempo.

• Pianist (P): These special Styles provide piano-only accompaniment. Just
by playing the proper chords with your left hand, you can automatically
add complicated, professional-sounding arpeggios and bass/chord patterns.

I hope this helps...

[tomtomsf]

Yes, you are right about the three that you named as being freeplay styles. I believe that the 4th one is the HomeOrganBallad. It could also be SlowOrchBallad, or ModernOrchBallad, but these two are not strictly freeplay styles.

The new freeplay styles do not have any drum or percussion tracks and they lack any accompaniment that would dictate strict tempo. Because of this, you can vary your tempo freely as you play along with them. you are not locked into the strict tempos that all the other styles dictate.

Tom G.


Does anyone know the names of the freeplay styles in the new CVP509. There are 3 ethereal styles (movie, hymn, synth) but the specs say
that there are 4 free play styles. What is the name of the 4th one?

Sam

[Jaish]

you are right about the three that you named as being freeplay styles. I believe that the 4th one is the HomeOrganBallad. It could also be SlowOrchBallad, or ModernOrchBallad, but these two are not strictly freeplay styles.

The new freeplay styles do not have any drum or percussion tracks and they lack any accompaniment that would dictate strict tempo.

Where did you guys get this information? These categories aren't in the CVP-500 series manuals, unless I completely missed it...

Thanks!

[dbjorck]

Hi!


• Free Play (F) (CVP-509/505): These Styles are characterized by rubato
performance. You can perform freely with remarkably expressive accompaniment, without being constrained by a strict tempo.

Wow! I haven't heard anything of this before! This is very exciting and would have been a selling point for me. When you play classical music it isn't very exciting to have 70's disco styles on the piano.

Brgds

Danny

[tomtomsf]

The free play styles were first released in Yamaha's Tyros 3. I own one. That's how I know. The CVP509 is a "stripped down" version of the Tyros 3.:) Actually, the 509 is a lot better in many ways (more piano features). But, the operating system and many voices in the Tyros 3 exceed those in the new CVP's, even though the 509 does have a lot of the T3 offerings. The Tyros 3 had only one freeplay style. The new 509 has 4 because people like them so much. However, they are still styles and not necessarily well suited for classical music, or other types of music. Like other styles, you must match the tune to the style for it to sound appropriate. I would like to see 10 or 20 more freeplay styles introduced. That could expand the songs that you could play with them.

Tom G.

[dbjorck]

Hi!

The CVP509 is a "stripped down" version of the Tyros 3.
What annoys me about this weird stripping down that they do, is that on the Tyros 3 you can download new voices, even Super Articulated voices...

Brgds

Danny

[Jaish]

What annoys me about this weird stripping down that they do, is that on the Tyros 3 you can download new voices, even Super Articulated voices...

I hear you, Danny. I was VERY surprised that the CVP-509 came out a few months after to be "stripped down", too. I mean, it would have made more sense to have EVERYTHING the Tyros 3 does and then add some more things, then on the Tyros 4 add MORE things, and so on, and so on. I was disppointed, but...it didn't stop me buying a CVP-509! I mean, it's expected with electronic companies. It's called planned obsolecence and to keep peopel buying...

I was actually about to buy a CVP-309 GP as they were on sale and there was also a good used on not too far from me. But then I heard and saw the CVP-409 and fell in love. So, after saving my pennies, and trying to see who had a CVP-409 in stock, I ended up hearing about the CVP-509 and ended up getting that instead as the piano REALLY sounds better. I can see how Yamaha have cut corners in the case design in the CVP-509 (compared to the CVP-409 and EVEN the CVP-309), but I think it's a way to keep profits high in these economic times.