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smarks
11-03-2003, 03:09 PM
My wife (who is the player) and I recently received our new purchase of a CVP208. After taking a few days to understand the various functions and settings, we are still experiencing some difficulties.

One of the more important concerns to my wife concerns the KEYBOARD TOUCH SENSITIVITY adjustment. The piano we traded in was a 1997 model CLP411. That model had a very simple one button adjustment to choose a hard, soft, or normal setting - and on this model the adjustment had a pronounced and obvious impact (with my wife preferring the soft setting so that she was not required to strike the keys with as much force). But on our new CVP208, even when we make the corresponding keyboard touch adjustments - we cannot honestly perceive any detectable change at all? My wife visited the site of where the purchase was made and spoke to a salesman. But even on their floor model, neither my wife nor the salesman could perceive any difference after the settings were changed.

My request: Would any of you who own a 207-210 mind checking your pianos and seeing if the Touch Sensitivity adjustment seems to make a difference? Is there perhaps something we are missing such as some additional step or setting that has to be considered? Any help would be appreciated.

Note: The steps we have followed to access this setting is to first hit the 'function' button, then choose 'controller', then selecting 'keyboard/panel', and then using the up/down arrows to adjust the touch. Try comparing hard2 down to soft2. In our case we cannot tell a difference?

smarks
11-03-2003, 03:25 PM
Regarding my question above on the touch sensitivity adjustment seemingly having no effect, I did want to mention a couple more things

. 1. Our salesperson's reaction was of no help, and even insulting. He did not have the expertise to address this and instead just tried to claim that one should be able to play any piano and just adjust to what ever keyboard sensitivity you have.

2. We are aware that a different procedure can be applied to adjust the keyboard touch sensitivity of a particular voice. That involves pressing the 'sound creator' button, then choosing 'common', and then using the up/down buttons to adjust the second column labeled touch sense. We did do this for the main Grand Piano voice changing the default setting of 64 to a value of 90. This did have a pronounced effect and did seem to serve the concerns my wife expressed.

But still, this is just for one voice. And it does not address our frustration over the more global setting. I would still be curious to see if others of you share the same experience on your pianos, or if any of you can share some additional insight on this matter.

Thanks to all.

Ian J. Evans
11-03-2003, 05:27 PM
I'm glad this question came up, it forces me to try functions on my new CVP 209 that I have not used yet.

However, I can note a difference in the touch sensitivity settings. When I set it to HARD 2 it takes a heavier touch to get full volume, and when I set it to SOFT 2 I get full volume with a lighter touch.

There is no change to the actual touch/feel of the keys just the amount of volume with finger touch on the keys at the different settings.

Hope this helps.

BTW, I'm glad I did not buy from your dealer...!

My salesperson is just a great guy and extremely helpful and knowledgeable. I hope he monitors this forum, because he could be a very useful member.

Ian

steve_d_howard
11-06-2003, 01:39 AM
I also have the same problem on a 205 and the only way I could fix was to adjust it directly for the piano using sound creator.

Repeatedly hitting a key with the same speed and force while adjusting the global sound setting doesn't seem to make any noticable change, so looks like it could be a global problem (maybe its just too subtle).

Steve

jjm542
11-06-2003, 07:58 AM
I can hear the effect on my CVP900 - don't know how to quantify it but it's definitely there.

I wish Yamaha would provide more flexibility here, particularly an editable non-linear velocity curve. I've used such capabilitity in other environments and it makes a big difference in piano realism.

ericho
11-06-2003, 09:19 AM
Hi

I'm verry happy with the control that the cvp208 offers over the voices
I accept that the cvp is a digital piano with arranger build inside and that it is not a syntesizer
I also play a korg trinity. this intrument is totaly differend one.
Its a real sample and dsp based syntesizer.
It has all the control over the voices you can emagine but the end result dus not come anywere near the sound quality of the cvp.

Kind regards

Eric