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puldem
04-09-2003, 05:02 AM
Hi,

I bought my cvp last week and already spent hours of checking all the functionality (still haven't covered one tenth I guess). Now I was wondering how one can put the recorded songs on a cd and not in Midi format, but in such a way that you have the same sound (or almost) like on the cvp? I figure it should be done via the to host functionality...

Can anyone give a step-by-step method to do this properly (+software needed).

Cheerz

ClavinovaGuy
04-09-2003, 09:08 AM
There's a couple of different ways to accomplish this.

One would be to get a stand-alone CD burner (the home audio component type), and hook it up directly from the CVP's Audio-Out jacks to the Audio-In jacks on the CD burner.

If you want to use your computer instead (which provides much more flexibility), then you will need some recording software. The cheap (i.e. free) route would be to use Windows Sound Recorder. By default, WSR only records a minute of audio, but there's are ways around that problem. I personally use Cool Edit Pro, which has a lot of available effects, and can handle many tracks. There are lots of other programs available, such as N-Track, Quartz Audio Master (from DigitalSoundPlanet), and many others. The physical hookup is from the Audio-Out jacks of the CVP to the Line-In on your soundcard. Depending on your soundcard, you may need a Y-adapter (available from Radio Shack for a couple of bucks).

When I record a song onto the computer, I usually have a number of tracks (drums, strings, etc.) on my CVP. I send these individually to the computer and re-mix them there. I do this for a number of reasons - sometimes, the polyphony of my 209 won't handle the mixed tracks adequately. And I have added flexibility in manipulating the individual tracks on the computer - I can add effects, double the tracks, etc. As you add tracks, you will find that the dynamics of the mix change, so it is important to be able to make adjustments easily.

When recording to either a stand-alone CD burner or to the computer, you will likely find it desirable to set the EQ on the CVP to "flat", or nearly flat, or your recordings will be too bassy. Also, you will want to reduce the volume of the CVP's playback (in the Mixing Console) to the point where your recordings aren't too "hot". This takes some experimentation - I've found that a setting around 50 is a good starting point, but that can vary depending on the instrument and the song's dynamics.

If you go the computer route, make sure you have enough horsepower, memory (I wouldn't recommend less than 512mb of memory) and disk. Wav files are huge - figure on 10mb per minute of audio. A mix can quickly consume hundreds of megabytes of disk. And a decent quality soundcard is important, too. I have a M-Audio 2496, and am quite happy with it. You can find one at zzounds.com for about $150.

There are lots of online resources about recording - here's just one:
http://www.homerecording.com/

puldem
04-09-2003, 10:11 AM
So,

What the hell is the TO HOST functionality then??? I have a sound card on my motherboard (not a great one, but a good one) and I have an AMD2000 with more than 60 Giga of free space. I also have a mixing program from Magix (sound creator or something ... a sampling software kinda thing) ... so I just connect the headphones jacks to the mic input of my pc ... and hit record in my software - sounds easy!! Thx

Cheerz

ClavinovaGuy
04-09-2003, 10:29 AM
The To Host comes into play with MIDI (driving the CVP from the computer, etc.). You'll want to use the Audio Out jacks on the CVP rather than the Headphone jack - a line-level connection rather than an amplified signal. And you should use Line In on your soundcard instead of Mic In, if available, as the Mic-In probably has a pre-amp.

pwcrowther
04-09-2003, 04:49 PM
You need to connect the CVP line-out to the line-in on your PC using an audio cable. Then play the CVP and record onto the PC creating a wav or mp3 file. Then you burn an audio CD. Midi is not used for this - by using audio, you get the sound of your CVP.

I use PolderBits software for recording, which I've found to be very good. See http://www.polderbits.com/ Then I use Nero to burn the CD.

Peter.

Ender
05-06-2003, 09:00 AM
I would like to do what you said, ie. record all the tracks of my song individually onto my computer, which I think I am able to do ok (although I haven't actually tried yet!).

However, I would also like to record singing as a seperate track, using some Vocal Harmony effects on my CVP207.

Is there a way to sing along with the song on the CVP while recording the voice only as an individual track to computer (using Cool Edit)?

If not, what would be the recommended way of doing this?

ClavinovaGuy
05-07-2003, 11:09 AM
I'm not very savvy on how the vocal harmonizer works (since I sound like a wounded beagle, and have never used it), but maybe you could just mute all but one of the other tracks. You could keep the volume of the one track you need as a cue real low.